We have just gone through the same scam. The customer tried to use 3 credit cards, one went through, for his purchase. He suggested that we use his freight company to ship out of the country. We tried to be accommodating and took all the information. Once the payment cleared the credit card it became urgent that we pay the freight company before the equipment arrived because it would take several days to get things arranged. They didn't seem very concerned about delivery any longer. The freight company didn’t change their quote after I changed the weight and dimensions on the shipment. The cost of the shipment was a third of the total selling price, just about $3000.00. When I received the invoice from the freight company, I Googled the name (no luck) and then the address. That is when I pulled up this blog, thank goodness. The contact had been calling every hour to find out the status of the payment to the shipper. After reading this blog I waited for him to call again. I told him that our company insisted that we use our own contracted freight forwarder and not his. In his next breath he said to cancel the order, but send him back his credit card data. There were lots of red flags from the beginning on this purchase. Namely not one person we spoke with had a "real" or company e-mail address. We end up with a surplus of equipment we can use over time, but we aren’t out any money, just man hours.
Here is another version, luckily I told my boss about these spams. Hello Owner, Am Mr.Gary Bismark,and am inquiring about some Strollers,Diapers,Baby Carriers,Diaper Bags and Stroller Blankets.At the moment i will like you to send me an e-mail with some few list on the one's you got in stock with there prices.Or email me back with your website for me to view the type.After that I'll show the type and Quantity i want to order.And also let me know the type of credit cards you do accept as payment.Thank you and waiting to hear back from you soon.Kind regards.Mr.Gary Bismark.
I got the same scam from the same person. I had a few minutes, so I played with him a bit: -----------------------------------------Hi Wayne,That sounds good. I'll have my administrative assistant contact you with the details. And provide you with the wire transfer information. Please provide the name of the freight company. I wish we could take credit cards, but unfortunately, the criminals have ruined it for us. I'm sure that you, like me, wish the dirty criminals monther's would have stopped the criminals before they were born. At least the criminals will spend eternity in hell. It serves them right and it's what they deserve.Oh well. We'll be in touch. ---------------------------------On Tue, Mar 8, 2011 at 3:37 PM, wayne johnson <firstname.lastname@example.org> wrote:What do you mean by dirty criminals?---------------------------------Obviously you're not one, but there are way too many dirty criminals who use stolen credit cards. Or, they'll send too much stolen money in advance, and ask for a Western Union/Wire Transfer back. Then the legitimate company loses the money. It causes legitimate businessmen like you and I extra problems. For example, we can't take credit cards for high amounts, or new customers or overseas orders. Those dirty criminals will spend eternity in hell, and never should have been born to begin with. The world would be a much better place if they had never been born. They are lower than my dog's feces or the sole of my shoe.On well, I'm glad that you and I don't need to worry about that. I'll have my admin send you a quote so you can send a wire transfer. Obviously, I'll deduct the wire-transfer fee from the order.------------------------------------------------------------------------On Tue, Mar 8, 2011 at 4:03 PM, wayne johnson <email@example.com> wrote:I see,unfortunately a wire transfer is not possible at this time.Wish we could do a wire transfer but i dont see it to be a possibility at this time.
Same deal here. I got an email from wayne Johnson requesting 2000ft of hose. We get a few of these type of scams each year. Dean, thanks for the prominent response,i think am okay with the total cost.However,i will like to recommend you to AMAL FREIGHT INTERNATIONAL LLC for the shipping of the units to our newly established project branch located in Malaysia and will like you to email them with the total weight of the units together with the pick up and delivery address , so that they can get you the shipping cost. below is my branch or delivery address: New Mission Foundation Center No. 70, Jalan SS 15 / 4, Subang Jaya,47500 Petaling Jaya,Selangor Darul Ehsan, Malaysia and below is also the contact information of Amal Freight International LLC INTERNATIONAL SHIPPING DEPARTMENT: PERSON TO CONTACT:MR BRUCE SMITH SHIPPING COMPANY'S CONTACT EMAIL ADDRESS: firstname.lastname@example.org Or email@example.com And so i will like you to contact the shipping company as soon as you can and send me an email response feedback with the total cost for the units, shipping altogether so that i can make full payment to enhance better transaction for the first time.
Just got finished with this piece of work. I played with him for a week to see where it was going to go. We had near constant contact for a week. I enjoyed the fact that he was actually anticipating nearly $18,000.00 in illegal gains. He finally instructed me to use 2 credit cards and charge each of them until the order was filled. I waited a bit and then replied that all transactions require a bank wire transfer. Goods are shipped when the money clears............Funny, i have not heard from him since.
Thanks for your warnings. We received a similar email which we spotted as a scam. The contents follow without alteration. From: larry bonesSent: Sunday, March 27, 2011 11:04 PMTo: undisclosed-recipients:Subject: Order Good Day ,Mr. Larry is my name and i want to know if you carry ( Tiles ) if Yes i will like to place an order and if we decide to purchase we shall be in business with you... Kindly send me pricing and brands so that i compare and make a final sale... Exclude shipping from quote since unit will be picked up from your Store/Company and i will also like to know where you located ???Best Regards
I just received the same scam email (building materials, credit card, etc.) from a "Mr." Wayne Johnson ... You can usually smell the scam whern the scammer's is referred-to as "Mr." or "Mrs." in their own introduction. I would guess he/she is based on Australia -- based on the diction and style.
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I was in the middle of a large shipping order $5,000.00 of copper lighting to go to an orphanage in Haiti...red flag right there! but at first he wanted to pick up the product at our retail store in Florida, but we only had a sales person in Florida (we manufactur in RI) and there was no store for him to pick them up so I said shipping would be included due ot the size of the order. Then came his shipping instructions...same as yours! Larry WInter....etc.....I also asked for a phone number to duscuss details over the phone but never received one and I started noticing his emails were coming through at very early morning hours 3-4 am.Still being skeptical but wanting to trust about the whole thing I did email the shipping company....they want me to send $2550.00 to a person in Ghana via western union. The only thng that confusd me was my so-called customer in Florida wanted to pay with a credit card and he was going to pay up front. I thought this is safe but apparantly isnt and I'm trying to understand how? If a charge his credit card and it clears how could I be in any potential trouble? Clearly its a scam, I'm just tryingto understand how it works. Is there a proper place to report such fraud? Below is his entire email:DEAR SHIPPER,Thank you for your interest in using Overseas Shipping Company for yourshipping needs and services and below is the information regarding theshipping quote and payment terms for pick up schedule.We checked on picking up and shipping 12 contents Post Onion Lanterns boxedindividually. Each box weighs 14 pounds. Dimensions are 18.5" x 18.5" x 24.5"they will be on a standard pallet (4' x 4') 3 layers of 4 boxes each wrappedin shipping plastic. 4'x 4' x 6' and weighing approximately 168 pounds (notincluding the pallet).Pick Up Location Address(I deleted this part for this blog)Shipping/Delivery AddressMrs. Faustina GregoryDelmas 33Port-au-PrinceHaiti- 00509The shipping costs is going to be $2,550.00 US DOLLARS. That includesinternational airway taxes(I.A.T),Tarrifs and custom's clearance duties. Ittakes approximately 2-3 days for delivery from the time of pick-up andregarding the packaging and crating the shipping company will also handle thatto prevent breakages or damages (but if the company prefers to handle thepackaging and crating themselves that will be no problem) and so you will needto receive the payment from the customer so that you can make payment to us(That is our Company Policy).SHIPPING PAYMENT OPTIONSThe shipping charges for the shipment will have to be paid to the shippingcompany via the Western Union through the nearest Post office location nearyou and so the customer will make the payment for the shipping to you and thenyou pay on his behalf since we only take payments from the pickup location andall you need to do is to get cash and the address to send payment which is below.1ST Payment Option:Send payment via Western Union Money Transfer/Money Gramto our financial manager at that location to the address the address is.ADDRESS TO SEND WESTERN UNION/MONEY GRAM PAYMENTName : Mr. Jordan HillfordAddress : 186 silver star AveZip code : 00233City : AccraCountry : GhanaTelephone : +233544159599You need to go to the western union with the cash of the shipping funds andthe address below specified to send payment through before we come and pick itup you have to email us with the Western Union Money Transfer receiptinformation which shows.1, Senders Full Name.2, MTCN Control Number 10 Digits.3, Secret Question and Answer.All the above information's are on the receipt and the question and answerwill come from you which can be any question and answer as you choose.As soon as we receive payment we will send you the payment receipts to yourfax number which contains the shipment tracking number and the time for thepick up and shipment and before we can provide that we need to get a paymentconfirmation details requested above and don't hesitate to contact us if youneed any more assistance.THANK YOUMr. Larry Winter (Freight & Logistics Manager)Overseas Shipping CompanyTelephone : +233544159599
They get their money through the shipping company. Like you, I knew it was a scam, but couldn't figure out how the scammers were profiting from it. It works like this: they give you "their" preferred shipper's name and ask you to charge the order and the shipping fee to their credit card and for you to pay the shipper out of that. Well, you pay the shipper cash and then they all disappear. Later, you discover that the credit card was stolen, the bank refuses to pay the credit card charge (or takes the money back from you) and you are left holding the bag not only for the huge order, but for the money you paid the shipper (usually between $2.500 to $5,000), which was their goal in the first place. The way to shut the scammers down is to state clearly that you will only ship using acceptable shippers such as FedEx, UPS, or the US Postal Service. If they insist on using their own shipper, then tell them that they must arrange to pay them themselves (they are supposedly paying you, they can just as easily pay the shipper.) You will find that they suddenly decide they don't need the order so bad afterall, or just suddenly quit contacting you. When someone we don't know contacts us with a huge order, especially if there is the horrible grammer in the e-mail, we have a standard first response of:"To proceed with a quote we need full contact information, including shipping address and phone number. For churches, we require tax exempt verification for sales tax purposes. Upon receipt of this documentation we can provide quotes and payment terms. We regret any inconvenience this may cause, but internet fraud has become a significant problem." If they "get through that" and still want the order, but insist on using their own shipper, our response is, "PLEASE NOTE: This company will only ship items using UPS, FedEx, or the United States Postal Service. Under absolutely no circumstances will we ship items using any other than the aforementioned 3 carriers. If you wish to use another shipping company, you must make those arrangements yourself and pay the shipping company directly. THERE ARE NO EXCEPTIONS TO THIS POLICY." That gets rid of them. Hope this helps.
Received a very similar email recently for a large order of first aid and disaster supplies. Thank you very much for feedback,i appreciate it a lot. I will like to go ahead with the order so i will prefer to make the full payment to you with my master card so that you can go ahead and place the order for me. But before that , I want you to know that i am sending this items to an Orphanage home in Ghana so you must be wondering how that could be done, that is simple. There is a shipping company that will come to your location to pick up this items as soon as they are ready for pick up OK so i want you to get in touch with this freight company and ask them how much it will cost for them to be at your location to pick up the items when it is ready OK so that i can make the full payment. I want you to send them an email with your location address and then the Quantities of the items along with the delivery address below.Cathy Orphanage home.562 Ring Road EstAccra-Ghana 00221 TemaPlease in order to get the correct freight estimate from the shipping company you need to send them the following information's by email.. Your Location address.. The delivery address.. Quantities of the items .So send the freight company all those details by email so that they can get back to you with the freight cost OK. Below is the contact details for the shippers you need to find the cost from. Company name: Delmas Shipping Company Ltd.Company e-mail: Delmas@Cooltoad.com / Infodelmas@asiamail.comContact Person: Mark Barry. When I originally emailed the "client" regarding a shipping address, he claimed to be in Baltimore, yet, I received a follow up phone call that revealed a Minnesota area code. A little further digging brought up one red flag after another. Delmas is a legitimate company, but the "company" emails look completely bogus - cooltoad.com - really?. Then I found this site and all my suspicions have now been further confirmed. I have sent an email instructing the "client" to arrange the shipping directly with the "shipping company". I don't expect to hear back.
I got this: My response is first: Gary,I am sorry, you would be responsible for arranging any freight shipment for your charity as well as clarifying any payment matters with your freight company. If you would like to proceed with your order, you will have to provide me with a North American address for the items to be shipped to, pay for the products first and then we would ship them (we only use FEDEX, Canada Post or UPS). Once you have the products, you can arrange the shipment with your freight company.> Thank you very much for feedback,i appreciate it a lot. I will> like> to go ahead with the order so i will prefer to make the full payment to> you> with my master card so that you can go ahead and place the order for me.> But> before that , I want you to know that i am sending this items to an> Orphanage home in Ghana so you must be wondering how that could be done,> that is simple. There is a shipping company that will come to your> location> to pick up this items as soon as they are ready for pick up OK so i want> you> to get in touch with this freight company and ask them how much it will> cost> for them to be at your location to pick up the items when it is ready OK> so> that i can make the full payment. I want you to send them an email with> your> location address and then the Quantities of the items along with the> delivery address below.> > > *> Cathy Orphanage home.> 562 Ring Road Est> Accra-Ghana 00221 Tema> *> > Please in order to get the correct freight estimate from the shipping> company you need to send them the following information's by email.> > . Your Location address.> > . The delivery address.> > . Quantities of the items .> > So send the freight company all those details by email so that they can> get> back to you with the freight cost OK. Below is the contact details for the> shippers you need to find the cost from.> > *..............................**.............................> > Company name: Delmas Shipping Company Ltd.> > Company e-mail: Delmas@Cooltoad.com / Infodelmas@asiamail.com> > Contact Person: Mark Barry.> > ..............................* *..............................**......*> > > Please I want you to contact Mark Barry with all the details and then ask> him for the freight cost OK and as soon as you get the shipping cost add> it> to the cost of the items and e-mail me back the total cost so that i can> send you my Master Card to charge the full payment on it and start on the> order OK. So please get in touch with the freight company and get me the> cost , so that i can make the full payment to you OK. Thank you and i will> wait to read from you with the total cost.> > > Kind regards.....> Mr.Gary Bismark.> >